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Disagreement Evident Among Grosse Pointe Woods Council

Heated debate ensues after one council member suggests eliminating their salaries as they prepare to hike taxes for residents.

 

Minutes into the first line-by-line budget review by Grosse Pointe Woods city council for the 2011-12 fiscal year came heated discussion and accusations Monday.

The Woods is facing a $287,000 deficit in its budget after adding in a 0.5 millage increase to residents, which is expected to generate about $309,000. That deficit also includes the addition of  half of the state's normal revenue sharing–money that is yet to be determined at the state level–and about $257,000 in personal property taxes. The overall shortfall was $840,000. 

Originally, Woods Treasurer Dee Ann Irby told council the shortfall after adding all of those amounts back into the budget would be closer to $180,000. Irby told council Monday that a few amounts they thought they would be saving on had to be added back into the budget because there had since been changes. 

Among those changes, the full-time workforce has been reduced by three. Two people retired and two full-time employees were laid off, City Manager Al Fincham said. A current employee was suppose to have taken over one of the positions vacated through a retirement, but the employee decided not to apply for the position, which still must be filled, Fincham said. 

Within minutes of beginning a line-by-line review, councilwoman Lisa Pinkos Howle said she wanted the council to eliminate their salaries completely. She noted the total amount isn't an overwhelming amount but making such cuts throughout the budget has potential to add up. 

Before Howle finished speaking, Mayor Robert Novitke abruptly suggested Howle was suggesting such because she will be up for re-election this year. 

"It's an election year, now Lisa," Novitke said. "To try to start imposing that on everyone, if you want to do something then do it."

Howle responded, saying she brings this idea up every year and is shot down because Novitke accuses her of using it for political purposes. She told council that most of the council members from the other Pointes do not have salaries, with the exception of one where a very small amount is given. 

Councilman Joseph Sucher said he was in support of eliminating the salaries but the remaining members said they were against it. Councilman Todd McConaghy explained that there are many resources he puts into being a councilman but doesn't claim or submit for reimbursement, so he believes the council members deserve the money. 

Councilwoman Vicki Granger said she uses her salary to pay for tickets to attend events such as the Chamber of Commerce's annual dinner or to donate to certain organizations within the community that seek it. 

According to the League of Women Voters of Grosse Pointe, the council members are paid $3,750 annually and the mayor is paid $6,000. All serve four-year terms. The Farms council is the only other council in the Pointes that pays its members and the amount is $600 for council members and $900 to the mayor.

Howle said the savings of $28,500 annually would add up over time. She also told council members she believed doing so would show goodwill to the residents for whom the Woods will increase taxes and for employees who have accepted concessions and no raises. 

Afterward, Howle posted to Grosse Pointe Patch's Facebook page explaining if the cut had been made in 2004 when it first came up, the Woods would have $200,000 more in reserves. 

The heated discussion continued when Howle suggested cutting the Woods' Community Appreciation Reception, which is an annual party held for all of the city's volunteers at the Grosse Pointe Hunt Club. The cost on this budget is $12,000 and Howle said while it doesn't mean it has to be cut forever, she thinks it would be fiscally responsible to do so for this year. 

Councilman Art Bryant suggested to move the event to the Woods' own Community Center, where they city could purchase alcohol spirits and decrease the expense by $10,000 to $2,000 and still be able to have the event. 

Novitke spoke against cutting it, repeatedly telling council he feels making such cuts is risky because it takes away the special sense of community Woods residents have–the factor Novitke has said separates the Woods from other cities. 

"We truly have a problem there," Novitke said to Howle's suggestion. "I think that would diminish the value of appreciation," he said to Bryant's suggestion. 

The council, which ended its meeting after the disagreements, will continue its line-by-line review next week before its normally scheduled formal council meeting. 

Patti Kukula Chylinski

6:41 am on Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Congrats to Councilwoman Pinkos Howle again! Why should the mayor make $6000 and council $3750 whenthe other pointes have volunteer elected officials. Why would an appreciation dinner cost $12,000 everyear for the same volunteers and expose the city to liability since alcohol is served? The Michgan Municiple league states city dollars should not be paid for parties.. Councilwoman Pinkos is right, the spending of tax dollars to feed and entertain certain residents for good will is wrong and the city just cannot afford this anylonger. The volunteer reception party is basically a political party for the mayor since the mayor picks the majority of the people to serve on those city committees, its basically having the mayor throw a political campaign party paid for with tax payor dollars. If a council person wants to donate to a charity or event let them use their State of Michigan approved general office holders expense account and let people see where they spend their campaign dollars. Tax payor dollars should not be used for their personal charities if they do not want to use their personal funds.

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Cynthia Lambert Nehr

2:07 pm on Thursday, April 14, 2011

So, $12,000 to appreciate 60 volunteers? By definition, volunteering is done without the expectation of any payment in return. If we have $12,000 to spare, why not put it toward resurfacing the tennis courts at Ghesquiere Park? The park is used by hundreds of residents every day, and by creating useful tennis courts, our kids can actually ride their bikes to a park to get great exercise. This is the sort of goodwill and community I like to see in Grosse Pointe Woods, Mayor.

Elena Kerasiotis

7:02 am on Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Well said Ms. Kukula. The volunteers we are honoring do not contribute their time for a $50.00 dinner, they participate for the betterment of our community. The move to the Community Center makes sense. Council pay should be reduced to Farms level.

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Patti Kukula Chylinski

7:20 am on Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Actually at $12,0000 and with about tops of 60 people who attend that dinner that is $200 a head for drinks and dinner!

Brian Garves

9:34 am on Tuesday, April 12, 2011

As a trustee on the Grosse Pointe Public Library Board of Trustees, I am entitled to received a $30 stipend for each meeting. I have chosen to not receive such a payment so the Library can use the funds elsewhere. Some trustees have chosen to accept the payment, some, like me, have not. Couldn't Councilwoman PInkos Houle do the same: Elect to forego her payment? It will not save as much as getting the whole Council to give up their payments, but it will make a statement and set a good example.

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Sara Eaton Martin

2:45 pm on Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Thanks Brian. Just what you mentioned was a strong suggestion last night, which Howle said she would do but she said she felt it should be an overall policy decision by the council not an individual decision.

GPW Resident

10:07 am on Wednesday, April 13, 2011

Over 200 people attend the Woods' Community Appreciation Reception; City officials, members of volunteer committees and commissions, along with their spouse or significant other. Attendees are very appreciative of the recognition at this event. I question Councilman Art Bryant's accuracy as to the cost of alcohol being $10,000.

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Patti Kukula Chylinski

8:40 pm on Wednesday, April 13, 2011

Dear GPW resident,
I attended the volunteer party many years and I never saw 200 people at that event. It should be easy to check the bill as the cost is per person and I would assume the Woods would maintain those records for future audits. My main point is tax payor dollars should not be used for any alcohol at any city event due to the liability as well as the misuse of funds as far as I am concerned. All the city parties should be funded from the foundation that should raise private dollars for events (still minus alcohol). These parties are wasteful spending in these hard times.

dave bourgeois

11:25 am on Wednesday, April 13, 2011

I am sure, as the anonymous GPW resident points out above, that attendees are very appreciative of the recognition at the event each year. I don't believe that that is what is questioned here. My belief is that if this event is still going to happen as goodwill to volunteers maybe it could be handled in a more frugal manner. In a year(s) when the budget doesn't allow for such spending, maybe it could be handled/supplemented with donations from local businesses. And as councilman Bryant points out, it could be held at the community center to cut down expenses . I don't see anywhere that councilman Bryant said that alcohol would cost $10,000. I believe the savings would come from the cost of dinner and drinks probably priced on a per person basis versus a catering company. The savings would be pretty good, but probably not as much as that if it were to be anywhere near the quality as in previous years. And in times with budget deficits every dollar counts.

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sharyn mannino

5:51 pm on Friday, April 15, 2011

We are in economically troubled times, folks. Get real. Every one wants cuts, but not in their own backyard. Shame on the Council. The fish stinks from the head on down. I hope you all remember this at election time. A mayor needs term limits just like our president. We have our salaries cut,.so should all politicians-congress, senate etc. Rents on Mack are getting cheaper and cheaper.We are all cutting.so should they. I have volunteered for 20 years, all I expect is heartfelt appreciation and a thank you.

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Alan Domzalski

4:46 pm on Sunday, April 17, 2011

Sharyn, I can't wait to speak with you about declining Mack avenue rents! :)
Obviously the mayor and a good portion of council are not in touch with economic reality. It is beginning to feel like Detroit. What's next, Escalades? Bodyguards for council? Give me volunteers anytime.

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