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Grosse Pointe Farms Police Alert: Jogger Robbed at Gunpoint

Grosse Pointe Farms Police ask residents to be on the alert for two men who reportedly robbed a jogger this afternoon at gunpoint.

 

 

Grosse Pointe Farms Public Safety Office issued a Nixle Report at 2:11 p.m. this afternoon asking residents to be on the look out for two suspects wanted for an armed robbery of a jogger near Moran and Charlevoix in Grosse Pointe Farms.

Police report the robbery victim was jogging on Moran when approached by two black males who were in their early 20's, thin and under 6' tall. 

First suspect was wearing a black hoodie and had a black revolver. The second suspect was wearing a black hoodie with a hat and eye glasses. 

The men reportedly took a blue 1G iPod Shuffle with silver headphones by gunpoint.  Both suspects were last seen on foot north bound on Moran. 
No vehicle was seen by the jogger.


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The jogger was not injured. The police were contacted approximately 15 minutes after the robbery.

Please contact Grosse Pointe Farms Department of Public Safety if you have any information about this incident.  313-885-2100

Related Topics: Armed Robbery, Grosse Pointe Farms, Grosse Pointe Farms Public Safety, and Nixle Report

Savvy Shopper

3:17 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Let me guess, no suspects were apprehended?

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The Village Malcontent

4:23 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Might have been hard to apprehend a suspect when the report was made 15 minutes after the matter happened. I am all for profiling kids in GP in hoodies during the middle of the day. Let's face it, that is not a common occurrence here so call the police and have them stop and ask why they are carrying revolvers in Grosse Pointe at 2:00 p.m.?

dnsept

3:31 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

This is out of hand. I used to love going for walks in my neighborhood and now I don't feel safe doing that, even though I invested in pepper spray. There is no excuse for this to happen so many times in the last few months. I never thought I'd say this but I am considering moving out of GP. Law enforcement needs to work on a plan to protect the residents better, as they are paid to do. No one should feel unsafe blocks from their own home.

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Mark

3:37 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Time for open carry people. Deter the miscreants.

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paul

4:23 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Wow...be educated prior to speaking people...arrest was made on the last unarmed robbery in the farms on Belanger, and last robbery in GP City. We live a stone throw away from one of the most deadly and dangerous Metropolis in the world just on the other side of Mack where shootings, stabbings, murders, and rapings go on literally just blocks from the GP. And you are suprised when some of the garbage overflows into the community? Has anyone taken a ride up barham, hereford, neff, etc. Lately? Open your eyes people...it is not a "magical line" on mack or east waren or alter anymore...people are hungry, people are desparate, an most importanty they know most Grosse pointers are unarmed non CCW holders (easy targets). In conclusion I truly beloved from knowing a couple cops in the area for a long time these guys are doing what they can what they got...its not mayberry anymore here folks...

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GP For Life

4:56 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Yes, I am surprised, because it while Mack was never a magical line. It was a border patrolled by dedicated people who investigated everything and knocked heads. Mack is the Fulda Gap which must be held in order to perserve our way of life.

I think we need to go nuclear up in here. Perhaps augment our forces with these guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Outcomes I am a big fan of their work. Angola turned out nicely.

Also, Paul, I roll strapped in case anyone steps to this.

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River Rat

9:16 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Paul, what arrest was made regarding "last robbery in GP City"? The arrest in the Belanger incident was good work but I'm not aware of arrests in the City.

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CSM

3:44 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

Really, "people are hungry, people are desperate"? Get real, you think people are breaking into houses and businesses to steal food and clothing? When they sell the computers and jewelry they steal, do you think they're paying rent and buying food? No, they're at the mall getting $200. sneakers, Cartier sunglasses or in Detroit buying crack. When they shoplift from our grocery stores they're not stealing milk and vegetables, they're stealing steaks and liquor. They steal because they're criminals and the consequences are minimal at best.

GP For Life

4:23 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Honestly, I am a long way from not feeling safe. That said, I want the heat turned up on the street. It's time to step it up. This is unacceptable and should be punished with vigor and malice.

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paul

4:23 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

I am in no way saying that we should lay down and accept violence, etc. Just merely stating that if u don't like the sound of a Train...don't live near train tracks....and that people sometimes have unreal expectaions of law enforcement and overly depend on it...the first line of defense should be YOU....then 911.

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allyson tallent

4:23 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

I have lived in GPP, GPF and now GPC for over 30 years. Right now I am in GP's "hospital district," (Beaumont) and have seeb a huge increase in the number of people on the street. Between the street robberies and the storefront breakins that are becoming an almostdaily occurrence, I too am considering leaving the area. Our houses have lost half their value; escalating street crime will cause deterioration of not only property value but quality of life. The GPs have always offered an excellent quality of life, but I fear this, too, is ending. It is sad, and it is wrong.

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Mark

4:56 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

What is with all of the defeatist attitudes around here! It is pathetic. Step up your community vigilance and quit being a victim. Support the police in bringing heavier street "pressure". All of this whining about moving is why communities decay. East Siders are tougher than that damn it! You sound like West Side wimps! And Allyson sorry about the devaluing of property due to the hospital redistricting but that doesn't have to happen everywhere. People can make a difference.

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David Chaklos

9:16 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

For an I-POD? Help me to understand.

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Jj

9:16 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Grosse pointes are one of the last remaining good communties in se michigan. I am not letting them have it! Stand your ground folks!

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Sylvia Taylor

9:15 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Running away will not solve the problrm. Be careful where you go, always be on the lookout. These fools and idiots think they have you on the run. They are everywhere so running will not help. There day is coming and I hope soon. I thought open carry was the law but who gets to shot first or faster then the other. They are not that desperate, if they wanted a job they would have one. They do not want to work for it. It is easier to be a coward with a gun and take it from you by force. One day they will get theirs I just hopoe soon.

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Alan Stamm

8:59 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Community reaction to Thursday's armed robbery is the topic of coverage at another daily news site, which links to this article.

It quotes this comment and three others here. http://bit.ly/12pnDSM

Ed Kriese

9:15 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

GP is no longer safe. Take your CPL class @ Peter's on Gratiot and carry a gun.

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CSM

6:06 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

More guns are the answer? Should the jogger have carried a gun? How about the mom putting her child in the car on Calvin? What about the girls on Lakeland? Guess I'll get my Glock and go shopping in the Village. I think not.

EGMP

9:15 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

'Moving'/ 'running' away from these problems aren't going to help, we need to step up the patrol and hit this problem head on! Times are tough, and this is happening and on the rise EVERYWHERE. Grosse Pointe probably hasn't experienced this much crime in awhile, if ever, and even though we'd like to think this won't happen here, it is and will continue. The police need to be patrolling constantly, people need to be aware of their surroundings at all times( yes even in GP), and maybe we all need to start thinking about carrying a concealed weapon!

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Joe MacDonald

9:14 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Mark, you are absolutely right. The reality is that the criminal element of Detroit now permeates all suburbs, so there is no "safe haven" to which anybody can move and expect to be completely crime free. In 2011, the FBI crime statistics showed Grosse Pointe Shores had the lowest per capita crime rate of any Detroit suburb; Harper Woods had the highest. Birmingham's per capita crime rate was equivalent to Grosse Pointe Park. Shelby Township's per capita crime rate was equivalent to the average rate across all five Grosse Pointes.

Community resiliency means being able to endure outside negative impacts through commitment, investment, and support for neighbors and the neighborhood. Grosse Pointe has always been a poster child for community resiliency. That resiliency is what has kept the Pointes strong and unyielding through decades of outsiders trying to damage and destroy. I read Mom and Dad the crimes reported in the historical headlines of the Grosse Pointe News from 50 years ago and there was no shortage of robberies and theft. However, GP has maintained a tightly woven community fabric and that fabric will not tear in the face of these feckless goons.

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GP For Life

8:59 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Joe, welcome to the winning team! This is the type of talk I like.

We're unyielding. That's the best way I've heard to describe our community. I kneel to no man.

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Joseph Sucher

1:49 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

As repeatedly mentioned here, Community involvement is key. And it can occur on many levels. What I have not seen mentioned is the use or expanded use of auxillary police officers. These residents volunteer their time maybe a few hours a month. They are not sworn peace officers, but can add, among other things, another set of eyes to the cars patrolling the streets and alleys. I did a couple of years in the GPW auxillary before stints on the Rec Comm., the Planning Comm. and the Council. I thought the auxillary was effective years ago and I know they still exist today. To what extent I'm not sure. If you truly want to save the Pointes, find a way to volunteer your talents in a positive way. Get involved. You will be helping your neighbors and get the added benefit of feeling good about yourself for being a part of the solution. And these days we could all use need a dose of that. Don't forget, this is your commmunity. You are in charge.

bill

9:14 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

This is what happens when you let liberals control things. Detroit has had a Democrat Mayor for how long? If liberal crybabies, ie ACLU, would get off the cops backs and let them do their job. Time to profile. And time for residents to step up and start calling the police if they see anything that looks suspicious. Oh, and get your Concealed pistol license as soon as possible.

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Pete A.

8:06 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

The bigger threat to GP is coming from the state. If the education bills they are working on pass, our property values will drop so low - nobody will want in and everyone will be leaving their house to get out. The current increase in crime can be handled - hopefully an aberration due to the economic depression we're in. The proposed EAA bills are the immediate/greater threat to life here.

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The Village Malcontent

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Pete: Do you want to provide some specifics on how the education bills will have a more serious affect property values given the GP schools will not be required to be schools of choice or do you just hope to capitalize on fear and reaction created by a mid day stick up in a quiet residential neighborhood to mobilize community objection to the proposed education legislation?

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Pete A.

6:12 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

VM- the link on the right under recent articles "Panel Urges..." does a decent job explaining why the bills are an issue for GP-even if allowed to opt out of schools of choice. Basically, how public schools are funded will be altered hurting even high performing districts. Crime worries me, but legislation like this will more drastically change GP.

Phil

8:06 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

If someone doesn't seem like they should be in the neighborhood the residents should pay attention. This way if something does happen maybe someone might have noticed a car , or someone walking around through their neighborhood earlier in the day. Any info the police receive is better than none.

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Love the Pointe's

8:06 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

GP City made an arrest last week of the home invasion suspect they were looking for, there are three suspects in jail for the jewelry heist and they made an arrest in a supposed armed robbery that was a inside set up. Great job. We need to support the boys in blue all we can and keeping more of them on the road and being alert to our surroundings is a great start.

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Bob Frapples

10:58 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Catching the criminal isn't even nearly as good as preventing the crime before it happens. Prevention is the key.

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River Rat

10:58 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Love the Pointes, where did you see this info? I try to keep up but I guess I missed these good stories.

GpGr67

8:06 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Its a shame this has happened again, and the GP police departments need to step it up. Our housing values dropping has NOTHING to do with some occasional crime that happens in GP - values dropped everyone. And, crime happens in every community - stop making it out to be that all of the sudden GP has become an unsafe place to live. Our statistics are still better than most communities in Michigan. And, Bill, give me a break with your political nonsense. As we saw in Lansing, when you let Rebublicans control things, you get totally undemocratic fast-track processes to passing laws that hurt the middle and lower class (thereby increasing crime), bills to allow people to carry guns in schools and several pieces of legislation that will decimate the public school system in this state to make sure money winds up in with the investors of for-profit education companies who will have no oversight and who's methods have never been proven to be successful. Why? Because major GOP donors are pushing all these bills and lining the pockets of Republican legislators. If you think crime is our biggest problem and if you falsely believe that our housing values are dropping because of it, wait to see what happens to this community if these ridiculous education bills pass - the value of living in Grosse Pointe for its great schools will be vastly diminished. Put your efforts into calling the Republican legislators you probably voted for and sharing that info with them....

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The Village Malcontent

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

GpGr67: I think you missed the Detroit News article describing Bob King's influence on the events of this week, regarding the right to work legislation. King could not be reasoned with on Proposal 2 because his politics are far too left leaning. King needs to be held accountable by his membership for his miscalculation unless they are all as left leaning as he. If the union membership is not all left leaning then all the more reason for right to work laws. Why should a person be forced to pay for political activity on which they do not agree? As for the education laws impact on property values what specifically will happen that will ensure such a decline. I would prefer something other than the Grosse Pointe diploma value argument because to the extent that kids apply to college,they provide a transcript of their courses, a transcript that would indicate the location and mode by which the content was delivered.

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Osito

6:12 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

I do think the perception of crime increase in the Pointes has hurt property values. Look at Birmingham. The Pointes were much more expensive than Birmingham a generation ago. Now, there's no comparison. Prices in Birimgham are easily twice that of the Pointes on a per-square-foot basis. They have 600k bungalows and colonials in good neighborhoods start near one million.

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Wendy

10:06 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Osito,
I don't think crime is the reason. At least according to this website (see below), on the whole, GP is safer than Birmingham. There have been some very serious crimes in downtown birmingham recently. I think the real reason is that Birmingham is in closer proximity to jobs, has better marketing, better retail and entertainment options, and is more hospitable to newcomers. Plus, it's overvalued.

http://www.usa.com/rank/crime-index--rank-of-city-near--48230-mi.htm?tag=Best+Cities+by+Crime+Rate+Near+48230+Zip+Code

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Chris K

3:44 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

Wendy: I think you are entirely right about the difference in property values in GP and Birmingham for all the reasons you describe. I suspect property values in western Wayne county are higher as well because of proximity to jobs and things to do.

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Joe MacDonald

8:52 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Osito, what data do you have to support your assertion? Based on data from both the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Report Series, "Crime in the United States," and the U.S. Census Bureau, the 2011 per capita crime rate for Grosse Pointe (all five communities) is 16.8 crimes per 1,000 residents. The 2011 per capita crime rate for Birmingham is 21.3 crimes per 1,000 residents. In 2005, the same sources yielded the per capita crime rate for Grosse Pointe as 21.4 crimes per 1,000 residents. The 2005 per capita crime rate for Birmingham was 21.8 crimes per 1,000 residents. I don't know how many years you mean by "a generation," but over the past several years the crime rate in Grosse Pointe has gradually declined while the crime rate in Birmingham has remained approximately the same. Any perception that Birmingham is "safer" than Grosse Pointe is unsupported by crime statistics. If historical real estate data shows that the average residential price per square foot in Birmingham is higher than that of Grosse Pointe, I agree with both Wendy and Chris K that the difference is probably not caused by perceptions about crime in the two communities.

Bob Carr

9:07 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Worth noting on this one: GPF PD issued a Nixle report quickly on this one. Reduced the lag between crime and report combined with increased Nixle usage by the public can provide our communities a tool that provides both early warning and the opportunity to lend our eyes and ears. There are few police to go around to protect us these days: using this tool together we can work together. This is one social media tool that may do some real good!

You can sign up for Nixle by texting your zip code to 888777 for SMS notifications. (Further information is at www.nixle.com.) Nixle is free to public safety agencies.

I'm just hoping that Park decides to move into the 21st century before we have too many more unsolved assaults.

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joeysback

9:39 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

I agree, to a large extent, with GpGr67. In fact, what has gone on in Lansing this week has me ready to move--right out of the state. If I have to live in a state with a legislature like this and laws like this, I might as well live in one that has an ocean view! But, beyond that, I think most of the comments smack of racism, and come from people who have no idea what they are talking about. You are probably the people who drive through Detroit with your windows up and doors locked, holding your breath until you're on the other side! People LIVE there! People with children and grandchildren and dogs and cats and jobs, and LIVES--just like YOURS!!! It's not about "us" and "them"!! When will you ever realize that we are all in this life/country/state/city together??? I'll tell you what will happen if you start "profiling" kids in "hoodies"----you'll pick up a lot of your own kids!!! They ALL wear swetshirts with hoods--black, white, old, young--it gets COLD here in Michigan! And, as far as carrying guns is concerned. it's STUPID for anyone to carry one if they are not a police officer!!!

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William

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

joeysback, I disagree on many of your points. The legislature did the right thing. WHat is so bad about giving people applying for work a CHOICE of union or not? Isnt choice what liberals fight so hard for? Makes no sense. And, while profiling from the authorities is no longer permissable, there is no reason our GP residents cant do it. If you see something suspicious, pick up the phone and notify police, simple as that. Detroit and its resident thugs IS the problem. When is the last time you heard of a resident caucasion robbing a GP citizen by gunpoint?? I do agree carrying a gun is not the answer, what would that jogger have done with a concealed weapon? Probably got herself shot. Police are doing their best, I believe that. The people of GP need to become more involved, alert and better prepared.

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MRSPirateLarz

1:49 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

THANK YOU! Although I agree with most on here that people need to be more vigilant, profiling based on skin color and/or clothing will not work! I am a 32 yr old married mother of 2 and my husband and I wear hoodies almost everyday during the winter. Do I suddenly pose a threat just because I am wearing a hoodie IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER??????
However, that being said, we as a community need to get to know our neighbors better, pay more attention to people walking down the street, and be aware that things can and will happen any where, any time! (Just hopefully not choice of schools any where, any time...)

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Mark

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Joey it sounds very much like you have no idea what you're talking about. Sure there are people who live there but there is also an inordinate amount of crime there too. Crime that spills over into the bordering communities that otherwise would have much less. There certainly aren't a lot of our own kids holding people up at gunpoint so please spare me the rhetoric. It isn't racist when you deal in fact. The profile is the economic demographic residing in Detroit not the skin color so wake up. You sound like a limousine liberal are you sure you're from around here? It is usually the folks who don't border such a city that can speak with such ignorance.

Bill

9:39 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Patch can you tell me what in my comment was bad and caused you to remove it? Truth hurts or this site is just a joke or what?

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Toni Stinson

9:43 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

I deleted your post this morning because it violated Patch's Terms of Service (http://grossepointe.patch.com/terms). We encourage lively discussion among our Patch community members so please repost your comment so that it complies with our policy. If you feel your post was deleted by mistake, please let me know and I will gladly repost it.

Todd

10:58 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

If it looks like a problem, smells like a problem, acts like a problem.... it's probably a problem.

There is no substitute for knowing your neighbors, having a nice big dog and looking out for things that seem out of place. If you think there is a problem call the cops.

Jensen and the guys in GPF do a fine job. We're all flipping out over a robbery (because its scary and unacceptable), but 1 mile northwest you cant count all the robberies.

I call that winning in a tough world.

And no, we are not moving. We are simply getting more determined. Grosse Pointers have the brains and the resources to handle this. Now stop whining and get to work.

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Robert

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

The Grosse Pointes will soon be the next Palmer Park, Indian Village or East English
Village-that is why more and more people are moving out to Oakland County. There was an article in the Detroit News this week that Macomb County is becoming the new Detroit. Go to Kroger in the Village everyone is on Bridge cards or WIC - I work in Troy and never see anyone at the grocery stores out here on those cards. Good Luck Grosse Pointers you need it.

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Todd

2:56 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012

You must work in a different Troy than I do. Rich ladies from West Bloomfield are being robbed at the valet stand at Somerset. Weird, Oakland Co. may not be the Utopia you describe after all.

Or are you just trying to rabble-rouse?

Yeah, maybe that's it.

MRSPirateLarz

1:49 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

By the way, for those of you who have not been paying attention, these crimes "of attack from across Mack" that have everyone so outraged take a look at who the police end up finding out are behind these car break-ins, house burglaries, etc... About half the time the criminals are (OH NO, IT CAN'T BE) teens and young adults WHO IN LIVE GP. So once again people, stop with the profiling and just start paying attention. Any where, any place, just about any one!

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William

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

MRSP, care to share your facts? I have to dispute your statement that "About half the time the criminals are young adults who live in GP". I read the police reports weekly, rarely do I see a GP resident that is arrested for a seroius crime. Especially the crimes involving gun point robbery. Wake up and stop denying reality here.

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The Village Malcontent

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

There is a gang in Detroit whose initiation requires the members to target ( profile ) the victims on the color of their skin and take from them their iPhone preferably while in use. This gang operates in midtown, downtown and who knows where else. People have been warned to be on the look out and you are saying people not to profile? If I am wearing my hoodie covering my head and I am stopped, I have absolutely nothing to worry about because I am not doing anything wrong. If you have nothing to hide AND if you are interested in your community being safe you would not be the least bit concerned about being stopped.

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Mark

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

The ones that involve armed robbery are those kids living in GP half the time?

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GP For Life

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Let's take your off-the cuff-statistic of half the property crimes are perpetrated by Grosse Pointe teens and young adults as the truth. That would mean that the other half are committed by "outsiders". That would still mean a disproportionate amount of crime is because of "outsiders" and thus profiling would still be warranted in a purely statistical sense, that is.

But don't let my logic dissuade you from foisting about your opinions on how the community should be policed.

On a side note, I am not really concerned about drug hungry losers breaking into my car at night to fence a GPS for a taste of sweet lady H. I am concerned when people come to our community armed with the intention of using weapons to gain what they could by just coming here at night and looking for unlocked cars. It's the threat of violence that really bothers me. Don't see a lot of GP kids mugging people do you?

I am GP For Life and 60% of the time I am right all the time.

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Todd

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

LOL... you're serious with that?

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Chris K

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

While I have possibly not been paying the attention to these crimes "of attack from across Mack" as you, I do make a distinction between crimes against persons (where weapons are shown to young girls on Sunday mornings or joggers on Thursday afternoons) with the victims providing descriptions and the directions of the perpetrators as heading toward Mack Ave. You can use whatever means you wish to pay attention but it is not your place to judge the means others use to pay attention.

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EGMP

3:44 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

AMEN William & Village Malcontent!!! I don't care what your ethnicity is, you look suspicious or up to no good, I'm gonna profile and call on your A**!!!

Bill IV

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

My family and I live in GPF three blocks from the robbery and we're not going anywhere. I'm buying myself a glock as an early Christmas present. Want to break into my home, let me introduce you to my dogs or the flurry of bullets coming your way. Sick of this crap. And for those of you whiners who say you're moving, cya.

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Christine

8:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

I treasure GPW and do not desire to move. As a woman, I also believe that we need to protect our community, especially senior citizens. Instead of retreating in fear, we should take more walks, jog more frequently, AND report any suspicious activity without worrying about diverting police resources.

Sucher's point about auxiliary police is a great start!

Why not a ten-year dedicated police millage across all the Pointes, so the police can walk the beat, bike the streets, and drive around in unmarked cars as well as the old "black and whites"? If we had this millage, we could afford to have several Raleighs. Did you know that Raleigh is now supported by donations, not taxes?

Budgets are not my specialty, but if we supported a 1/2 mill increase across all the Pointes, wouldn't we generate more than a million for additional police support at an average homeowner cost of $75.00 per year, half the cost of the IPAD stolen from this young jogger? This millage would supplement the present police budgets.

Then police would have the time and resources to pull over suspicious individuals. Didn't GP for Life indicate that teens in hot rods were pulled over routinely when he was young?

Nothing like a swiftly delivered jail sentence to dampen criminal interest in GP. Why might we need to invest more to save GP? Unless an eccentric millionaire were to buy up all of neighboring Detroit and convert it into farmland, we must deter the criminal element.

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River Rat

6:12 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Christine, this is an excellent idea that I believe would be widely supported by the voters. The problem with this approach may well be our local governments who do not want to lose control of any part of government income. In other words they would appreciate the tax money but don't tell us how to spend it. We will see if any local politicos jump on the idea.

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GP For Life

3:46 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Christine, while I fully support a temporary increase in police protection, though I do not believe cops are shy on resources. I know there has been a change in enforcement "tempo", shall we say, and that needs to change.

Also, we were pulled over routinely and we weren't driving "hot rods". We were also stopped routinely while walking.

We don't need to save GP. Three armed robberies does not a crime spree make. People need to chill out. While I am one of the loudest voices for more aggressive policing, I don't feel like we're under siege, or at least anymore than we used to be. For the love of God, you can't tell me things were better in the late 80s/early 90s? 1967? If you can't take the heat, cancel your dental plan and move out to Clarkston, or something.

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Joe MacDonald

1:25 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012

GP For Life, your assessment is spot on. I dug deeper into the FBI's "Crime in the United States" reports and discovered they have data for cities with at least 10,000 people back to 1985. During the period between 1985 and 2010, Grosse Pointe Park's per capita crime rate peaked at 67 crimes per 1,000 residents in 1986. Since then, it has fallen to just 21.5 crimes per 1,000 residents in 2010, the lowest crime rate reported in the last 25 years. Crime is always a principal concern in GP, but it used to be much worse. Perhaps the difference now is that everybody is much more aware of crimes when they do happen...there was no internet, smart phones, and social media in 1986.

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GP For Life

8:56 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012

Thank you, Joe. Certainly, social media is playing a role, but there are a number of other factors. In uncertain times, like ours, people see crime and feel more threatened by it.

As the population denisity of the surrounding community contiues its decline, in theory, we should see less transient crime in our community. In short, there are a number of reasons why the statistical crime rate is going down and why some people feel less safe.

This however should not excuse us from taking vigorous action to deter criminals from feeling like they can enter our community with impunity.

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Joe MacDonald

5:10 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012

GP For Life, I concur wholeheartedly. Despite the improvement in crime rate, criminals still threaten the life and property of Grosse Pointers and nobody deserves to be violated by unlawful acts. Community cohesiveness is key. Grosse Pointe residents, business owners, elected officials, and law enforcement officers must be proactive and vigilant to thwart would-be scofflaws who intend to threaten and endanger GP citizens.

lifelong

6:12 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Why in the H-E-double hockey sticks, would you run from these people. Stand up and make a difference. You dont like the way someone is looking around your block, call the cops. dont like the way the pants are hanging, call the cops. dont like the use of dirty words infront of women and children, call the cops. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR. If you dont want to call the police then do the work your darn self. I for one would not hesitate and have stopped someone for looking suspicious in my GPF block. Hey I might be an idiot, but I dont care. They will not take my city that i have been a part of for 40 years with out a fight. If the police wont do it or help, I will. BRING BACK THE STRESS SQUAD TO TRAIN GP POLICE!!!!!

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Joe MacDonald

6:12 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Christine, it's so interesting that you posed your "hypothetical" about the eccentric millionaire and his farmland because that is exactly what is happening with Hantz Woodlands. Detroit City Council approved the sale of 125 acres on the east side of the city to Mr. Hantz (between Jefferson and Mack, west of St. Jean) and the media has reported he intends to purchase another 180 acres east of St. Jean, closer to Grosse Pointe Park. As the "wave" of eastside Detroiters continues to push into Harper Woods and Macomb County, they will leave a landscape of vacant lots and scattered abandoned buildings in their wake. Mr. Hantz is more than eager to turn all of this emptiness into his growing commercial tree farm and put vast former neighborhoods into a viable use that will not produce a threat to the health, safety, and welfare of others.

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Chris K

6:12 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

I think before anyone suggests we raise our taxes the respective Grosse Pointes need to demonstrate any capacity to share services, coordinate services and use the resources that are available. While the departments are backing one another up (and to what extent we really don't know) that is not the same as creating a system where the existing resources are used cooperatively.

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Todd

5:10 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012

Then promptly lose your voice with a personal "community policing" approach.

No thanks. Demand financial responsibility out of the nimrods in the Woods and get the City a firetruck and we are all set.

Katie

7:49 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

GPF police station at Mack/Moross?

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Frank K

4:55 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Grosse Pointe Farms at least has a police force that wants to inform their citizens by Nixle. In the Park we have had 4 breakins to businesses within 2 days, a robbery at the Sunoco station, and a bump and rob attempt on Mack by a repeat offender. All these things have happened in the last week. The police here are just too busy to inform the members of our community of any of these incidents. Great community outreach, isn't it.

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Yoko Ono

3:44 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Many (not all) Grosse Pointers don't like to face reality.

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Brian F

8:26 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

Brian F
Like some of the previous people have said you can't run away. My wife and I both have CPL permits and we know quite of few fellow pointers that do. I don't know a soul who has one that really wants to use it however, One day a message will be sent by somebody who will have to legally defend themselves which in turn will get a point across to these thugs the hard way!!! I got run out of Detroit I'm NOT running out of the Pointes. We have the best Police agency around but they can't be everywhere. Take a class get a permit, observe safety and protect yourself and your family!

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Bob Frapples

3:46 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Do you really think if a Grosse Pointe resident defends themself from an attack by someone from outside the city the word is going to spread through the under world of criminals that we, the Grosse Pointe community are not going to put up with their nonsense and the crime will stop?...as if the criminal element are all dispatched from one singular HQ each day? Or as if they all know each other and will warn one another that we're not going to stand for it any more?

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GP For Life

10:19 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Bob, I don't know, but I am willing to give "laying one down" a try. Since the cops won't step it up it might be up to the citizenry to turn up the heat.

Brian F

12:13 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012

Well, Bob. You miss my point. Very simply, it WILL get the point across. Yes, the media thrives on this crap. No, Grosse Pointe will not become an instant safe haven; it never was. However, when less a-hole on the streets. Really? A simple purse snatching was on channel 4 news.

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