I think you're gonna be getting alot of calls now that they have removed this stuff from the stores. There's gonna be alot of children going thru withdrawals now.

Marina, do we just come back to this page? (how do we access the Live Web Chat?)

I think just about everyone has concerns and/or questions about K2, "Spice" and the other synthetic drugs. The dangers associated with the use of such highly publicized drugs must be known to the general public. This should deter the majority of people from "using." However, habitual criminals and drug addicts seldom change their ways. Reforming criminals is a difficult challenge to say the least, despite top-notch efforts by professionals. Penal institutions today are filled with
repeat offenders, and some inmates actually are comfortable and accustomed to prison life. It becomes a way of life for them, and their basic needs are met . . .
They may even become reliant upon the "system" to take care of them, and some inmates do not even desire to be released, as they know nothing else. Nevertheless. alternatives to incarcerartion are viable for certain individuals, and
are a Godsend for those who are granted such measure(s). Although it is often thought, "Once a drug addict, always a drug addict," I do not agree with this notion.
Reform of drug addicts is possible, and rehabilation enables such persons to stop "using," and become productive members of society. There should be "hope" for everyone in our society, despite past mistakes they may have made in their life.
Of course, lifetime imprisonment is sometimes a necessary measure to protect society and punish the offender.

I commend Patch for giving us real experts on addiction, not just volunteer parents who mean well.

1. Should we send every teen who is using drugs to an inpatient course of treatment? Would it prevent more deaths? What are the barriers to getting inpatient help?

2. I just read the NYT article about study drugs like Adderall. Are teens in this area using those drugs?

I'll have some questions ready for tommorrow.. but right now i just wanted to post a link here if it's ok? It'll let some parents know a little more about what their kids have been going thru while using this stuff. http://drug.addictionblog.org/k2-synthetic-weed-dangers/

Thanks for posting that link Dave. The comments, alone, should be enough to scare people away from the stuff. Unfortunately, not everyone sees it that black and white!

What exactly is in K2, like the "active" and "inactive" ingredients, and why is it so addictive. Also, is it a physical addiction or more of a psychological addiction.

This is more of a comment than a question. I can't believe the smoke shop in downtown Brighton not only sells K2, but advertises it in their window?!?! They are right next to the Yum Yum Tree and Imagination Station....disgusting!!!!

Along the same lines as Teri's question. Some of these products contain ingredients such as hops, chrysanthemum petals, Safflower, Lemon balm, nettle leaves, etc. Most of which have been used for medicinal uses on their own for centuries by herbalists.

Now my question is what is the overall effect of the base material on the users "high", without spraying synthetic THC products on top of these? Are any of these other ingredients contributing to the users dying? Or is it just mixing of these with the BWH chemicals that are the reason people are tripping?

I know i am not asking this right.. someone please put it into better words. But i want to know if the base material could of been used legally without all the deadly side effects? And if so what could possibly be the reason to spray synthetic drugs on what is supposed to be used as incense, if not just to make them more addictive? It certainly couldn't be for making the product smell better.

Dave, the chat is live. There were some technical glitches early on. Should be working now.

I was listening to the radio the other day, and heard that the scientists who create the chemicals in K2 are simply altering the molecules in order to keep it 'legally' on the shelf. Is this true?

Great chat everyone.. thank you.. i learned a little.

Thanks to everyone who joined our live web chat. Hope you all found it informative.

Please sign this petition to help ban K2 don a national level.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/ban-all-synthetic-drugs-including-spice-k2-and-related-brands-currently-sold-legally-gas-stations/h94sc1SW

my job told us about 2 weeks ago they would be testing for K1 and K2 Spice now, is there a drug test for it now?