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Should the Sale of Spice be Banned in Michigan?

A state representative is proposing that K2—a synthetic form of marijuana known as Spice—be banned in Michigan.

The sale of K2——has drawn much attention throughout the state of Michigan in recent weeks.

Many parents have expressed concern about . Most notably,, 19, of Farmington Hills is believed to have been high on synthetic marijuana in April when he was accused of attacking his family,.

On Wednesday, Michigan state in the state of Michigan.

Darany’s proposal comes after many local communities have rallied to have Spice banned.

Facebook groups have been formed in , protests have been held in , and parents have teamed up in .

Other local officials are taking notice, too.

The . about the dangers of the drug. And in an editorial on Troy Patch.

What do you think? Should Spice be banned in Michigan?

Sammy V. June 02, 2012 at 03:46 AM
The public rallying cry to ban K2 is something to behold. It should've probably happened years ago, but hey, better late than never right? When are you people going to start caring about cigarettes? They kill 400,000 people per year. How many people does K2 kill a year? 6?
Matt Guarnieri June 02, 2012 at 04:05 AM
I worry all this publicity about a harmful activity, especially in the way of public protest, will just make more rebellious teens and pre-teens seek out these substances. It's like broadcasting that a banks door is unlocked at night, people who normally would never even think about doing this stuff will become informed about it. I have never heard of this substance abuse until recent activity in the news but young people do not listen to the news.... Thinking if they see a lot of older people picketing outside a store they will be drawn to whatever they see older people protesting and try it. This protest might be opening a whole new market for these sellers.
Dave June 02, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Anyone just wondering what we are talking about here. THIS STUFF IS SATIVA NOT K2 OR SYNTHETIC WEED. It is a drug!1 always has been .. and has always been illegal to sell and tell people how to use it. This was murder of not one.. but several people from this stuff already. It has absolutely no use for incense i can't make with hemp that would be 100% SAFE. It is not now nor ever been legal to tell anyone how to use any product as a drug... and they need to arrest the makers of this stuff here in the Usa and in UK and elsewhere around the world. It is worldwide. AND the terrorists are making huge profits by killing our children. AND all the while their parents are over in Iraq and afghanistan protecting their families. It's just not right!!
Sammy V. June 02, 2012 at 01:24 PM
Dave--- I am pretty sure "Free Speech" allows people to say whatever they want, even if it is, "Lick a toad and you will get high" or "Smoke a banana peel". This country can not start arresting people for selling something that is not explicitly illegal as that is how the Rule of Law works. And unfortunately, the laws are not going to be able to keep up with the chemists, so what will happen? A small group of people will judge for all Americans what they can and cannot buy and which new chemicals are going to send people to prison. Do you see where this is going?
Alan Stamm June 02, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Good points, Sammy . . . particularly your observation that "the laws are not going to be able to keep up with the chemists." A Wired magazine writer's sobering roundup, posted just two days ago under the headline 'Chemists Outrun Laws in War on Synthetic Drugs,' says: "Every time a compound is banned, overseas chemists synthesize a new version tweaked just enough to evade a law's letter. It's a giant game of chemical Whack-a-Mole. ". . . 'If you want any evidence that drugs have won the drug war, you just need to read the scientific studies on legal highs,' wrote Vaughan Bell at MindHacks, a neuroscience blog." [ http://tinyurl.com/6nschox ]
Tom June 02, 2012 at 04:34 PM
I cant believe what Im reading. So lets boycott any place that sells spice or k2. Then we should boycott every liquor, grocery store and gas station that sells liquor, cigarettes, or beer. I guarantee you that those items have killed way more people in this world than any illegal drug. Oh but the government says liquor and cigs are legal. I would rather hang out with and drive next to a pot head than a drunk.....without a question.
Lilly June 02, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Mark knows nothing about it. It is natural and NEVER killed anyone life the DR PERSCRIBED ones. They should rethink these pot laws and BAN that fake crap. It is amazing that that stuff can KILL you and it is still LEGAL yet pot is illegal..Just plain stupidity there. Keep yr comments cause my Mother DIED from PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. Pot is a big money maker and THAT is the truth.
Mark June 02, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Lilly first, I'm not against legalization of marijuana nor did I dispute the medicinal value of it. In fact I completely agree that it can help a lot of people. I merely rejected the statement that it CURES a lot of health issues because it simply isn't true.
Dave June 03, 2012 at 12:23 AM
Not a question of whether drugs should be legal here TOM Can we now sell poppies as air fresherner? It's a matter of whether we can legally sell narcotics to teenagers without telling them of the consequences... again i say no...
Jeffrey Long June 03, 2012 at 01:01 AM
Yeah Richard, I have a hard time endorsing Citgo because of Chavez. But they have taken a stand, which is something no other national chain has.
Tom June 03, 2012 at 03:16 AM
Agreed.
Brash Brazen June 03, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Once marijuana is legal (thanks Michigan Supreme Court) no one will want this poison anyway. This stuff is not only dangerous,but most of it is consumed by minors unable to buy the real thing. Anyone who wants marijuana need look no further than the closest bar. Order a beer,wait a few minutes,then follow your nose out front or around back. Really,how naive are you prohibitionists anyway ? Marijuana is a benign recreational drug enjoyed by millions of Americans daily,so why are these people still called criminals. Enforcing these asinine laws is a waste of meager law enforcement resources,crowds our jails & breeds disrespect for the law in general. Crimes against people & property should be prioritized (assaults,murders,rapes,robberies,burglaries,etc.) with so called "victimless crimes" (drugs,gambling,prostitution,etc.) made the lowest priority for our local police. I've been smoking marijuana daily for 45 years & I wouldn't even consider trying "bath salts" or any of the other exotic sounding toxic chemicals being foisted off on the gullible & unsuspecting morons. Since people will try virtually anything to get high the popularity of this crap should surprise no one,but allowing it's unregulated sale shouldn't be allowed anywhere at any time,period !
Mark June 03, 2012 at 11:42 PM
What do you think it will be available for sale in stores now or something? You might want to actually read articles rather than just the headlines. It is legal for medicinal purposes with a prescription for certain ailments. Every teenage off the street (the primary users of this synthetic poison) will not be able to go to the corner store and buy marijuana now.
Dave June 04, 2012 at 03:51 AM
@Birmingham mom.. you are absolutely right about that. I do have a vested interest in this. They are called lori and anna and they are my daughters. I will stand up for yours too if that's not an interest of yours. I do no agree with making anything illegal in order to prevent a behaviour. I've taught my kids to not put poison into their mouths all my life. Yes there are thousands of plants you can smoke to get high off of in one way or another. Mint is relatively harmless if you know which ones to pick. The problem here BI mom isn't that there are things out there that are posionous. The problem is breaking the law and telling someone that a product is safe to be used as a drug when it's not. The problem is lying and telling them they are selling one product and substituting a powerfull addictive narcotic. That's the problem I could make cotton candy with heroin too.. but could i sell it as artwork? Think about it. Banning products isn't the answer.. they are setup to transfer this into the black market as soon as you make it illegal. And anyone can grow this legally in their yards now. They are making over 50 billion a year off this crap by my estimates... and if you want to give them ten times that then just ban it and see what happens.
Hartland HS Parent June 04, 2012 at 12:45 PM
@Brash, lets make pot legal so no one gets hurt...(sarcasm) Today's news: "A Phoenix, Ariz., woman put her 5-week-old baby on top of her car in his car seat and drove away, apparently forgetting he was there, not even noticing when the seat fell off the car and landed in an intersection, police said. Neighbors discovered the baby on the roadway, still strapped to his safety seat, which was lying on its side. Luckily, the baby was unhurt. The baby's mother, 19-year-old Catalina Clouser, who allegedly had been smoking marijuana, was arrested and charged with aggravated driving under the influence and child abuse, police said. "We believe that whatever she was under the influence of was the deciding factor in what did happen to this child and we're extremely happy that for the baby this turned out well and the baby is going to be OK," Officer James Holmes of the Phoenix Police Depart said. Clauser, her boyfriend and their friends had been smoking marijuana earlier in the evening at a nearby park, but the boyfriend was arrested on suspicion of aggravated DUI when they went to a store - with the baby in the car - to get beer, according to police. Upset that her boyfriend was arrested, police said, Clauser went to a friend's home and smoked more marijuana......" http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/mother-drives-5-week-old-top-car-164426051--abc-news-topstories.html
Sammy V. June 04, 2012 at 05:46 PM
this kid was drinking, too. In fact they drank so much they had to make another beer run. it was during the beer run that this sequence of events began. IMO, any 19-year old with a child is irresponsible. Probably a high school drop out. They do dumb stuff all the time, sober or wasted.
cmg June 04, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Better then having my kid die.
cmg June 04, 2012 at 06:59 PM
It's like that with everything. I don't think the media should make a big production about these kids hanging themselves because they were bullied either. A kid sees that and thinks oh, hey, there's an idea. But everyone thinks that should be thrown out there.
cmg June 04, 2012 at 07:00 PM
same difference. Point being they are selling it underage people. Adults can do whatever they want to be stupid, but a 13 yr old kid doesn't necessarily know any better.
Sarah June 06, 2012 at 09:24 PM
There shouldn't even be a question of whether or not it should be banned. If Marijuana is illegal, (which to me is less harmless than k-2 or spice, considering the news lately) why the heck is this ok to be sold in stores?? I agree we need to educate our children on the dangers of it, but for goodness sake lawmakers need to do everything they can before we have scenes from zombie movies being acted out in real life. Or more children killing their parents. This is ridiculous.
chris June 07, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Why waste all the effort in banning, shut it down why is it even being made...? And if kids are obviously getting it why isn't there an age limit... just shut down the manufactuing of it... F the laws what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong... shut them down... its kind of selfish for us to say ban it in michigan don't ya think, what about everywhere else....
Mark June 07, 2012 at 04:00 PM
I don't think we have enough space here to conduct a Civics class and explain how the government works. Go back to school and learn about your country.
chris June 07, 2012 at 04:25 PM
Government works? Lmao really... sorry but I Don't agree with some of the ways the government works... Yeah I understand this product isn't illegal but when I comes down to what its purpose is for which is only to make someone money, there shouldn't be an issue with shutting a business down... it doesn't have a single positive use..
Mark June 07, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Well Chris it is wonderful to hear about how you disagree with the way we are governed. Now that I understand that you don't agree of course we can shut it down right away. I just called the President and he agreed it will be done first thing tomorrow.
chris June 07, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Oops looks like I struck a nerve...my bad... so u have connections that's pretty cool thanks for taken care of the issue... good thing your here....
Mark June 07, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Don't misunderstand I find many flaws in the government. What I was doing was pointing out your incredibly juvenile view. F the laws this thing ain't right man. Just shut it down. Pretty much everyone commenting here feels the same way but they were trying to have an adult conversation about how to battle it in reality by starting with a grassroots movement of education etc. As opposed to your fantastical world where we just shut it down bro because that's the right thing to do.
chris June 07, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Never thought of it like that I totally agree.... I see now why I differ from you... sorry I have a juvenille view that's just me, u don't like it let's turn your opinion about me into a topic then we can really step into my world.... by the way outta all the ones commenting on the TOPIC u felt the need to discuss my opinion thank you, but lets not forget the question @ hand...
Mark June 07, 2012 at 07:06 PM
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Dave June 07, 2012 at 07:41 PM
PS.. anyone reading my earlier message about skunk cabbage. Don't even try to look for it.. it's deadly too. Just checking to see if anyone would ever fact check to find out for themselves. Don't ever smoke skunk cabbage either.
Holly Guilford June 07, 2012 at 09:39 PM
I have a friend in jail right now because of it. People have been hurt because of it. Families have been broken up because of it. Marriages are hurting because of it. It's terrible. It plays with your common sense and mood. It's terrible. No one, especially kids should be able to get it.

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