'Move To Macomb' Town Hall Tonight in Shores

Grosse Pointe Shores Councilman Dan Schulte, who is the council liaison to the Move to Macomb committee, will host an informational town hall meeting tonight for residents.

residents are encouraged to attend a town hall meeting tonight regarding and research that has been on-going for at least several months.

Councilman Dan Schulte, who is the liaison to the committee studying the move, is hosting the meeting.

The biggest benefit the committee has unveiled so far is a savings in taxes for residents. In May, Schulte estimated the savings to be:

  • about $440 for a resident owning a home valued at $100,000 or
  • about $4,400 for a resident owning a home valued at $1 million

The council had originally voted to gather an advisory only vote from residents in the August primaries but found out afterward state elections officials do not allow advisory-only votes. The vote must be taking action.

Upon discovering that, , including answering the many questions residents may have about what a change from Wayne to Macomb counties may mean for services.

Any such eventual move would require the majority of votes from both Wayne and Macomb county residents--to allow Grosse Pointe Shores to succeed from Wayne County and to accept the city into Macomb County.

Councilman Bruce Bisballe questioned Tuesday during the council meeting whether Schulte knew of any petition being circulated to get the Wayne County vote on the ballot. Schulte declined any knowledge, saying he was not gathering signatures for such a petition and he was unaware whether any of the committee members were doing so.

The town hall meeting begins at 7 p.m. at the Grosse Pointe Shores city hall. It will be recorded and aired on the public access channel so those who cannot attend may get the same information as those who are able to attend.

Becky June 22, 2012 at 11:33 AM
I wish I could attend but I have prior unchangeable commitments. My understanding is that before a tax-payer supported entity, like a county or municipal government, can acquire land or dispose of land that is publicly held (i.e. tax-payer owned) they must have a vote of the tax-payers in their county or municipality approving the acquisition or dispossession of the property, ergo, the residents of GPS would have to approve of this choice as would the tax payers of Wayne AND Macomb county. Practically speaking, I'm not sure I can see this ever happening. Besides, I suspect that the government of Macomb county is more corrupt that Wayne County. And, if this is a serious, realistic pursuit by GPS then why not see if the other Points would join the effort?
Dan June 22, 2012 at 01:17 PM
This story is dated June 21. The meeting was yesterday. The rest of your assumptions are nothing more than assumptions, with no basis of fact.
Becky June 22, 2012 at 01:30 PM
Um, I'm pretty sure they are based in State law according to a very fine tax attorney I once knew.
Brian Vosburg June 22, 2012 at 02:05 PM
Becky, the disposition of government owned property is subject to the local municipality's ordinances. Most government owned property can be disposed of by a majority approval of the elected officials. Some municipalities have occassionally and rarely placed special protections on dispositions of park land, property valued over a certain dollar amount, etc. and required a vote of the citizens of that municipality to approve of the disposition. However I'm not aware of any restrictions in Wayne County, Macomb County or GPS requiring a vote of the citizens on disposition of municipally owned land and would be very surprised if there were such restrictions.
Robert Lee June 22, 2012 at 02:49 PM
The above statement that Macomb County is more corrupt than Wayne County has no basis in reality. Bob Ficano is the poster boy for political cronyism and corruption in office. Mark Hackel is squeaky clean, and bold enough to institute an ethics policy for Macomb County employees that keep them from shaking down citizens for political purposes. I certainly know where I'd rather have my tax dollars going, and its not to be paying $200K bonuses and outrageous salaries to Ficano and his associates. Just because the task may be difficult, does that mean we should not attempt doing what is best for the future of Grosse Pointe Shores? If our Founding Fathers had that attitude, the Union Jack would be still be flying over our country today instead of the Stars and Stripes. So what if Wayne County voters turn down a ballot initiative to let the Shores move to Macomb County! That will only open the doors to legislative and judicial appeals processes that will hopefully culminate in the ability of Shores citizens to self determine what county they want to reside in. Any Grosse Pointe Shores resident who wants to sign a petition to get this matter put on the ballot can email me at relee54@yahoo.com, and I'll be happy to see you get a petition to sign.
Dan June 22, 2012 at 03:02 PM
The “assumption” comment was not in reference to the land matter. However, to that point, no land is being "disposed" of. This is purely a case of moving a county line to provide residents with up to a $10,000 reduction per year, per household, in property taxes. The "assumptions" of corruption in Wayne v. Macomb, and of other Pointes joining in, looks like a political attempt to create confusion and stall an honest effort. Even though this has nothing to do with county corruption, the insinuation that Macomb is more corrupt than Wayne is laughable -- consult any news source. The closing remark about other Pointes joining in ignores the fact that ONLY Michigan cities located in more than one county are eligible to move a county boundary.
Becky June 22, 2012 at 03:03 PM
Hackel is not squeaky clean. I promise you. Remember the GP mafia moved to Macomb.
GP For Life June 22, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Listening to any politician talk about ethics or economics is like listening to my girlfriend talk about football.
George R. McMullen Jr. June 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM
With the new world we are in I believe all issues and possibilities should be on the table. This includes possible consolidation of all the Grosse Pointes and the move of Grosse Pointe Shores to Macomb County. Who knows perhaps some day perhaps if the Grosse Pointes consolidate we could all move to Macomb county. Also lets not discount Harper woods playing part in this as we share a school system and library with them. My point here is I encourage more public participation on Local politics. As Grosse pointer we have much more personal access to our local elected leaders. There are some big decisions in the works for both short term and long term. And a shout out to our school board also with some big decisions… there is no better time then now to get involved
Zoila Brown June 26, 2012 at 06:06 PM
Does anyone know if being part of Macomb County would affect access to Grosse Pointe Schools?


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