Should Snyder Sign Bill Allowing Concealed Weapons in Schools?

On Friday, a gunman killed at least 27 at a school in Newtown, CT. Meanwhile in Michigan, Gov. Snyder has a bill on his desk that would allow some concealed guns in schools. What do you think?

Should Michigan's governor sign a bill on is desk that would allow concealed weapons in former no-gun zones, like schools?

The question is timely for two reasons:

  • Under legislation that passed the House and Senate in Michigan this week, gun owners with concealed weapon permits could carry a gun into schools, daycares, hospitals or public arenas if they get extra training. The bill is awaiting Gov. Rick Snyder's signature, according to MLive. Snyder told WDIV (Channel 4) that he would take a week to review the bill before making a decision.
  • And on Friday, a gunman opened fire in a school in Newtown, CT, .

Grosse Pointe Public Schools Board President Judy Gafa posted this comment on a social media site, "Thoughts and prayers to the families in Connecticut who are dealing with a nightmare right now. Governor Snyder has a bill sitting on his desk waitin (sic) to be signed that will allow guns in schools. I believe the district can opt out, but this is a bad law please call and tell him to VETO the bill!"

What do you think of the legislation? Should the governor sign it? Answer our poll and tell us in comments.

Jake December 14, 2012 at 11:41 PM
What does the Newtown, CT shooting have to do with with this bill. The school in Newtown was Gun Free Zone. That did not stop this tragic event from happening. Only law abiding citizens are not aloud to carry gun on school property. But criminals dont care about laws so they take a gun where ever they want. I get no reassurance from a signs with gun crossed out. Look at where some of the recent mass shootings have taken place Schools, churches , movie theater, university, and hospitals all Protected by No Gun Zone Laws. Now do I think that someone at the scene with a CPL could of stop any of these? I don't know and we will never know, but we just increased the odds in favor of Yes.
Bernard Allor December 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Anyone wonder why these crimes only take place in gun free zones? One properly trained individual could have saved all of those lives.
Grant Strobl December 14, 2012 at 11:58 PM
Completely agree Mr. Allor. Each school should have at least one designated person with a firearm.
peter December 15, 2012 at 03:27 AM
So sad, tears just roll down for these children and the familys. As for this Mich-atucky "bill" : This bill is stupid, just like it's sponsors. Ban all guns now. No man needs a gun in 2012. There are nearly as many murders in Detroit, a single city in the USA, as in all of Canada Guns are killing tools, period. They are used to kill, period.
walden schmidt December 15, 2012 at 04:06 AM
Open carry already allows firearms in gun-free zones. Passage of this bill would just allow the firearms to be legally concealed.
Green Pus December 15, 2012 at 06:39 AM
Yes. What happened in CT changes nothing. it's just more proof that "gun-free zones" are nothing more than victim-rich zones. There's no guarantee of course that an armed citizen could prevent what happened, but if there's any chance at all that someone could save my helpless child sitting in that classroom, then yes, I want that option.
GP For Life December 15, 2012 at 01:22 PM
Peter, thank you for your well researched and rational comment. I especially liked how you linked the stupidity of the bill to "it's" sponsors. I really felt your point. I do take issue with your statement "No man needs a gun in 2012.". You see, I need a gun to make me feel more like a man, otherwise I would just have to curtail myself to pointing out grammatical mistakes in hastily-written posts on the internet. Your opinion and Ms. Gafa's opinion, while coming from a good place and very heartfelt, is just nonsensical. You've tied (with help from the media trying to sell papers) the event in CT to a gun control law which would allow people who have CCW licenses to carry their guns when they pick up their kids from school or drop off a pie for the bake sale. If you truly believe there is a link between CCW holders and angry 24 year-old men who want to make the world feel their pain, then you're not thinking straight. It is a very emotional issue for people, especially after a tragedy, that's why we need you and Ms. Gafa to stop and think about the real underlying causes of this violence and ask yourself if law-abiding citizens are to blame?
Mark December 15, 2012 at 01:22 PM
Peter it must be nice living in your simple world.
Elgo Rdito December 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM
My fear is for an increase of idiots who can't spell "allowed" walking into schools. Only a trained and re-trained school teacher principal, custodian should be allowed entry with said weapons, although I'd prefer the bill is shredded.
Elgo Rdito December 16, 2012 at 12:25 AM
Well said Peter, GP For Life (Gun Pendejo?) while seemingly well spoken and rational, missed the point entirely, although I enjoyed his attempt to stroke you and keep you from barking back too loudly. In a Venn diagram with the words weapon and safety, there is absolutely no overlap. Safety is relative and you can keep away from it by moving to a relatively safer area. A school should be safe all the time from any chances of weapons coming in. Schools need to be locked and all doors under adult/teacher/employee control. Not all schools lock their doors. If you need a gun to compensate for lack of man sacks, then try being a woman. Like Betty White once said: "Tough? Those things are way too delicate, get a v@gin@! Those things can take a punding!!!" All kidding aside, this bill needs to be killed, and the sponsors re-programmed to come up with bills of actual use and benefits for the people, not just candies for those who own the means of killing others.
Hasta December 16, 2012 at 01:32 AM
Here's the issue, which Mrs. Gafa understands, because she spends a lot of time in school buildings: the odds of a random, crazed shooter entering one of our schools? One in a million. The odds of a nominally trained teacher shooting that person effectively? One in a hundred million. The odds of a gun-related death when DOZENS of people carry DOZENS of guns into our buildings EVERY DAY? Much, much higher. We have emotionally unstable students in our classrooms every day. How would a 5'3" teacher weighing 125 pounds, carrying a gun, stop a 6', 170 pound kid with an anger problem from tackling her to the floor and taking that "concealed" weapon and shooting up the place? We already have kids who steal iPhones and wallets. Wait til teachers are carrying GUNS! Or maybe teachers should just shoot every kid who approaches them unexpectedly? Teachers aren't police. The last thing I want is the responsibility of carrying a deadly weapon in a building with 750 impulsive, hormonal students with adult bodies and kid brains. IT'S A BAD IDEA.
Beachdudeca December 16, 2012 at 01:56 AM
Why would you want substitute teachers to bring a hidden gun into a school. For men that are drunk from a tailgate to be able to bring weapons to a Football game. To have persons able to bring weapons into a church even if it is against the belief and desires of that congregation?
Wendy December 17, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Many of the recent mass shootings were committed by men wearing bullet proof protection. Unless you require kindergarten teachers to be sharp shooters, it's highly unlikely they would be able to stop story time to reach their guns and shoot a maniac like this in the head--and not accidentally shoot another child in the process. Concealed weapons on school property will not stop these types of crimes from occurring. But perhaps banning the legal sale of semi-automatics might be a step in the right direction. At the least, it will prevent the degree of carnage that can occur. If the shooter has to reload, that break actually may give someone a chance to stop him or allow potential victims to take cover or run. I have yet to hear a coherent argument as to why these killing machines are allowed anywhere but combat.
Julie Madcon December 19, 2012 at 05:08 AM
Let's give that responsibility to an honor roll student - get good grades, get a gun. What schools need more of is guns, for sure. Are you people serious? I agree with all those whose comments support the evolution of human intelligence.
Anne Jones September 26, 2013 at 07:14 PM
That is tricky, what if the kids know? They can go coco and take the gun from you. I say airsoft/paintball guns work just fine http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AP-CYMA-P618.htm


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