Grosse Pointe Farms Police Alert: Jogger Robbed at Gunpoint

Grosse Pointe Farms Police ask residents to be on the alert for two men who reportedly robbed a jogger this afternoon at gunpoint.


Grosse Pointe Farms Public Safety Office issued a Nixle Report at 2:11 p.m. this afternoon asking residents to be on the look out for two suspects wanted for an armed robbery of a jogger near Moran and Charlevoix in Grosse Pointe Farms.

Police report the robbery victim was jogging on Moran when approached by two black males who were in their early 20's, thin and under 6' tall. 

First suspect was wearing a black hoodie and had a black revolver. The second suspect was wearing a black hoodie with a hat and eye glasses. 

The men reportedly took a blue 1G iPod Shuffle with silver headphones by gunpoint.  Both suspects were last seen on foot north bound on Moran. 
No vehicle was seen by the jogger.

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The jogger was not injured. The police were contacted approximately 15 minutes after the robbery.

Please contact Grosse Pointe Farms Department of Public Safety if you have any information about this incident.  313-885-2100

The Village Malcontent December 14, 2012 at 08:28 PM
GpGr67: I think you missed the Detroit News article describing Bob King's influence on the events of this week, regarding the right to work legislation. King could not be reasoned with on Proposal 2 because his politics are far too left leaning. King needs to be held accountable by his membership for his miscalculation unless they are all as left leaning as he. If the union membership is not all left leaning then all the more reason for right to work laws. Why should a person be forced to pay for political activity on which they do not agree? As for the education laws impact on property values what specifically will happen that will ensure such a decline. I would prefer something other than the Grosse Pointe diploma value argument because to the extent that kids apply to college,they provide a transcript of their courses, a transcript that would indicate the location and mode by which the content was delivered.
Todd December 14, 2012 at 08:57 PM
LOL... you're serious with that?
Chris December 14, 2012 at 11:35 PM
I treasure GPW and do not desire to move. As a woman, I also believe that we need to protect our community, especially senior citizens. Instead of retreating in fear, we should take more walks, jog more frequently, AND report any suspicious activity without worrying about diverting police resources. Sucher's point about auxiliary police is a great start! Why not a ten-year dedicated police millage across all the Pointes, so the police can walk the beat, bike the streets, and drive around in unmarked cars as well as the old "black and whites"? If we had this millage, we could afford to have several Raleighs. Did you know that Raleigh is now supported by donations, not taxes? Budgets are not my specialty, but if we supported a 1/2 mill increase across all the Pointes, wouldn't we generate more than a million for additional police support at an average homeowner cost of $75.00 per year, half the cost of the IPAD stolen from this young jogger? This millage would supplement the present police budgets. Then police would have the time and resources to pull over suspicious individuals. Didn't GP for Life indicate that teens in hot rods were pulled over routinely when he was young? Nothing like a swiftly delivered jail sentence to dampen criminal interest in GP. Why might we need to invest more to save GP? Unless an eccentric millionaire were to buy up all of neighboring Detroit and convert it into farmland, we must deter the criminal element.
Chris K December 15, 2012 at 02:50 AM
While I have possibly not been paying the attention to these crimes "of attack from across Mack" as you, I do make a distinction between crimes against persons (where weapons are shown to young girls on Sunday mornings or joggers on Thursday afternoons) with the victims providing descriptions and the directions of the perpetrators as heading toward Mack Ave. You can use whatever means you wish to pay attention but it is not your place to judge the means others use to pay attention.
lifelong December 15, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Why in the H-E-double hockey sticks, would you run from these people. Stand up and make a difference. You dont like the way someone is looking around your block, call the cops. dont like the way the pants are hanging, call the cops. dont like the use of dirty words infront of women and children, call the cops. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR. If you dont want to call the police then do the work your darn self. I for one would not hesitate and have stopped someone for looking suspicious in my GPF block. Hey I might be an idiot, but I dont care. They will not take my city that i have been a part of for 40 years with out a fight. If the police wont do it or help, I will. BRING BACK THE STRESS SQUAD TO TRAIN GP POLICE!!!!!
Osito December 15, 2012 at 06:24 PM
I do think the perception of crime increase in the Pointes has hurt property values. Look at Birmingham. The Pointes were much more expensive than Birmingham a generation ago. Now, there's no comparison. Prices in Birimgham are easily twice that of the Pointes on a per-square-foot basis. They have 600k bungalows and colonials in good neighborhoods start near one million.
Joe MacDonald December 15, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Christine, it's so interesting that you posed your "hypothetical" about the eccentric millionaire and his farmland because that is exactly what is happening with Hantz Woodlands. Detroit City Council approved the sale of 125 acres on the east side of the city to Mr. Hantz (between Jefferson and Mack, west of St. Jean) and the media has reported he intends to purchase another 180 acres east of St. Jean, closer to Grosse Pointe Park. As the "wave" of eastside Detroiters continues to push into Harper Woods and Macomb County, they will leave a landscape of vacant lots and scattered abandoned buildings in their wake. Mr. Hantz is more than eager to turn all of this emptiness into his growing commercial tree farm and put vast former neighborhoods into a viable use that will not produce a threat to the health, safety, and welfare of others.
Jon December 15, 2012 at 07:10 PM
Christine, this is an excellent idea that I believe would be widely supported by the voters. The problem with this approach may well be our local governments who do not want to lose control of any part of government income. In other words they would appreciate the tax money but don't tell us how to spend it. We will see if any local politicos jump on the idea.
Pete A. December 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM
VM- the link on the right under recent articles "Panel Urges..." does a decent job explaining why the bills are an issue for GP-even if allowed to opt out of schools of choice. Basically, how public schools are funded will be altered hurting even high performing districts. Crime worries me, but legislation like this will more drastically change GP.
Chris K December 16, 2012 at 03:28 AM
I think before anyone suggests we raise our taxes the respective Grosse Pointes need to demonstrate any capacity to share services, coordinate services and use the resources that are available. While the departments are backing one another up (and to what extent we really don't know) that is not the same as creating a system where the existing resources are used cooperatively.
Katie December 16, 2012 at 06:43 PM
GPF police station at Mack/Moross?
FarmsResident December 17, 2012 at 01:47 AM
@katie, stop making sense
Frank K December 17, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Grosse Pointe Farms at least has a police force that wants to inform their citizens by Nixle. In the Park we have had 4 breakins to businesses within 2 days, a robbery at the Sunoco station, and a bump and rob attempt on Mack by a repeat offender. All these things have happened in the last week. The police here are just too busy to inform the members of our community of any of these incidents. Great community outreach, isn't it.
Wendy December 17, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Osito, I don't think crime is the reason. At least according to this website (see below), on the whole, GP is safer than Birmingham. There have been some very serious crimes in downtown birmingham recently. I think the real reason is that Birmingham is in closer proximity to jobs, has better marketing, better retail and entertainment options, and is more hospitable to newcomers. Plus, it's overvalued. http://www.usa.com/rank/crime-index--rank-of-city-near--48230-mi.htm?tag=Best+Cities+by+Crime+Rate+Near+48230+Zip+Code
Yoko Ono December 17, 2012 at 04:23 PM
Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Many (not all) Grosse Pointers don't like to face reality.
CSM December 17, 2012 at 04:26 PM
Really, "people are hungry, people are desperate"? Get real, you think people are breaking into houses and businesses to steal food and clothing? When they sell the computers and jewelry they steal, do you think they're paying rent and buying food? No, they're at the mall getting $200. sneakers, Cartier sunglasses or in Detroit buying crack. When they shoplift from our grocery stores they're not stealing milk and vegetables, they're stealing steaks and liquor. They steal because they're criminals and the consequences are minimal at best.
EGMP December 17, 2012 at 05:22 PM
AMEN William & Village Malcontent!!! I don't care what your ethnicity is, you look suspicious or up to no good, I'm gonna profile and call on your A**!!!
Chris K December 17, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Wendy: I think you are entirely right about the difference in property values in GP and Birmingham for all the reasons you describe. I suspect property values in western Wayne county are higher as well because of proximity to jobs and things to do.
CSM December 17, 2012 at 10:26 PM
More guns are the answer? Should the jogger have carried a gun? How about the mom putting her child in the car on Calvin? What about the girls on Lakeland? Guess I'll get my Glock and go shopping in the Village. I think not.
Brian F December 17, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Brian F Like some of the previous people have said you can't run away. My wife and I both have CPL permits and we know quite of few fellow pointers that do. I don't know a soul who has one that really wants to use it however, One day a message will be sent by somebody who will have to legally defend themselves which in turn will get a point across to these thugs the hard way!!! I got run out of Detroit I'm NOT running out of the Pointes. We have the best Police agency around but they can't be everywhere. Take a class get a permit, observe safety and protect yourself and your family!
Joe MacDonald December 18, 2012 at 07:28 AM
Osito, what data do you have to support your assertion? Based on data from both the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Report Series, "Crime in the United States," and the U.S. Census Bureau, the 2011 per capita crime rate for Grosse Pointe (all five communities) is 16.8 crimes per 1,000 residents. The 2011 per capita crime rate for Birmingham is 21.3 crimes per 1,000 residents. In 2005, the same sources yielded the per capita crime rate for Grosse Pointe as 21.4 crimes per 1,000 residents. The 2005 per capita crime rate for Birmingham was 21.8 crimes per 1,000 residents. I don't know how many years you mean by "a generation," but over the past several years the crime rate in Grosse Pointe has gradually declined while the crime rate in Birmingham has remained approximately the same. Any perception that Birmingham is "safer" than Grosse Pointe is unsupported by crime statistics. If historical real estate data shows that the average residential price per square foot in Birmingham is higher than that of Grosse Pointe, I agree with both Wendy and Chris K that the difference is probably not caused by perceptions about crime in the two communities.
Bob Frapples December 18, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Do you really think if a Grosse Pointe resident defends themself from an attack by someone from outside the city the word is going to spread through the under world of criminals that we, the Grosse Pointe community are not going to put up with their nonsense and the crime will stop?...as if the criminal element are all dispatched from one singular HQ each day? Or as if they all know each other and will warn one another that we're not going to stand for it any more?
GP For Life December 18, 2012 at 06:31 PM
Christine, while I fully support a temporary increase in police protection, though I do not believe cops are shy on resources. I know there has been a change in enforcement "tempo", shall we say, and that needs to change. Also, we were pulled over routinely and we weren't driving "hot rods". We were also stopped routinely while walking. We don't need to save GP. Three armed robberies does not a crime spree make. People need to chill out. While I am one of the loudest voices for more aggressive policing, I don't feel like we're under siege, or at least anymore than we used to be. For the love of God, you can't tell me things were better in the late 80s/early 90s? 1967? If you can't take the heat, cancel your dental plan and move out to Clarkston, or something.
GP For Life December 18, 2012 at 09:43 PM
Bob, I don't know, but I am willing to give "laying one down" a try. Since the cops won't step it up it might be up to the citizenry to turn up the heat.
Brian F December 19, 2012 at 02:23 AM
Well, Bob. You miss my point. Very simply, it WILL get the point across. Yes, the media thrives on this crap. No, Grosse Pointe will not become an instant safe haven; it never was. However, when less a-hole on the streets. Really? A simple purse snatching was on channel 4 news.
Joe MacDonald December 19, 2012 at 06:04 AM
GP For Life, your assessment is spot on. I dug deeper into the FBI's "Crime in the United States" reports and discovered they have data for cities with at least 10,000 people back to 1985. During the period between 1985 and 2010, Grosse Pointe Park's per capita crime rate peaked at 67 crimes per 1,000 residents in 1986. Since then, it has fallen to just 21.5 crimes per 1,000 residents in 2010, the lowest crime rate reported in the last 25 years. Crime is always a principal concern in GP, but it used to be much worse. Perhaps the difference now is that everybody is much more aware of crimes when they do happen...there was no internet, smart phones, and social media in 1986.
GP For Life December 19, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Thank you, Joe. Certainly, social media is playing a role, but there are a number of other factors. In uncertain times, like ours, people see crime and feel more threatened by it. As the population denisity of the surrounding community contiues its decline, in theory, we should see less transient crime in our community. In short, there are a number of reasons why the statistical crime rate is going down and why some people feel less safe. This however should not excuse us from taking vigorous action to deter criminals from feeling like they can enter our community with impunity.
Todd December 19, 2012 at 05:50 PM
You must work in a different Troy than I do. Rich ladies from West Bloomfield are being robbed at the valet stand at Somerset. Weird, Oakland Co. may not be the Utopia you describe after all. Or are you just trying to rabble-rouse? Yeah, maybe that's it.
Todd December 19, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Then promptly lose your voice with a personal "community policing" approach. No thanks. Demand financial responsibility out of the nimrods in the Woods and get the City a firetruck and we are all set.
Joe MacDonald December 20, 2012 at 07:28 AM
GP For Life, I concur wholeheartedly. Despite the improvement in crime rate, criminals still threaten the life and property of Grosse Pointers and nobody deserves to be violated by unlawful acts. Community cohesiveness is key. Grosse Pointe residents, business owners, elected officials, and law enforcement officers must be proactive and vigilant to thwart would-be scofflaws who intend to threaten and endanger GP citizens.


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